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Question on How to Deal with Homosexuality (on transcripts).
Question from Mark (USA): Dear Pastor Chris, you spoke about
homosexuality and how it is a sickness of the mind. Pastor, how can one
get rid of it? Does the person have to go about seeking prayers or just
control his body through God’s word? Also, how do we handle the
homosexuals in the church and community? Is Hatred towards them right or
should we just pray for them?
Answer: Hatred towards anybody
will never be right, no matter how bad such a person has been or no
matter how sinful. Hatred is not acceptable from us toward anybody. Now,
you said, “…how can one get rid of homosexuality? Does the person have
to go about seeking prayers or just control his body through God’s
word?” Now, it depends on the seriousness of the condition. There are
three levels of homosexuality and, in fact, many other practices that
people are involved in.
The first one is:
1.) The level of
fascination: Now, at the level of fascination, you can, through your
meditation on God’s word [you know], get rid of it yourself; you can!
You meditate on God’s word and by changing your mind, you would [you
can] effect changes in your way of life, and that’ll be the end of
homosexuality; but you’ve got to make up your mind for that.
2.)
The second level isthelevel of habit: Now, at the level of habit, you
are more or less under the control of your own mind, but a way of life
that has now…because, in the beginning, we control [we create] our
habits, but in the end, our habits produce a character for us. So, once
it has come to the second level of a habit, you would need to break it
through another habit; which means, you have to develop a new habit of
consciousness of the word of God. That’s a little more difficult for
younger Christians. But it is possible, and necessary, if you are
already at the level of habit, which is the second level. It does mean
that you would need to produce or create a new habit – the habit of not
doing it – the habit of replacing your thoughts with certain thoughts of
God and being in certain places instead of what would normally attract
your attention or your interest to homosexuality. So, you develop a new
kind of habit. Like I said, it requires a lot more discipline than the
first level.
3.) Now, the third level is where you would require
someone to help you; your Pastor will be able to help you. Of course,
any other more mature Christian can do that for you, but, always better
when you talk with your Pastor. That third level isthe demonic level.
Now, the demonic level is where a demon has now taken advantage of what
you were fascinated with that became a habit, and began to control your
mind to this level where this demon, having observed you and observed
your interest, has taken a hold of you in this area of your life. And
so, [it] can make you subject to his dictates—anytime. You are now in
bondage.
See, it’s come to a demonic level; you are now in
bondage to that devil. You have yielded to that devil and that devil
must be cast out. It must be cast out of your mind, out of your system,
before you will be free. Now, can you do that yourself? Oh, yes! It is
possible also; but, it does require more knowledge of the word, more….a
better understanding of the scriptures and definiteness of purpose. You
make up your mind [that] this is what you want and you’re going to have
to have it this way. And then, you ask that devil to go and you’ll have
to trust, in faith, that that devil heard you. But if you go to someone
who’s more mature than you, it’ll be far better because he’ll cast that
devil out of you and you’ll keep the devil out. So, that’s why I said it
depends on which of these levels the homosexual is: fascination level,
habit level or the demonic level.
Now, you say, “how can one
know?” Okay. How can you know what level you’re in? That’s why I said
you better go to your Pastor and say, “look, this is what I’ve been
doing” and, through the Spirit of God and by ministering to you, he can
tell how far-gone you are. And, if you’ve been trying to get out of it
yourself, you would know because of the difficulty you’ve experienced in
trying to come out of it; you can tell at what level you might have
found yourself.
